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can you see rubio being presented a bottle o water? it would -- thank you so much for being a part of this. i am parched, and i'm particularly appreciative. thank you very much, brook, we appreciate it. this is the nonsense people are doing, and they don't talk about the rubio response. >> which was good, i thought. >> terrific. he's going to be a leader. that scares the hell out of those people, and everybody understands, understands what the message is from the left, and cnn playing that game tells you, critically, they are scared to death of marco rubio. >> uh-huh, who gave the speech in english and spanish. >> we live in a culture of gossip and entertainment, and there's nothing more entertainment of a guy reaching for water. that's more of what people want to hear about. >> it's demonizing him before he gets started. lou: that's what i'm saying. you agree with m that's what they are trying to do. i think it's reducing them to pitiful. >> at least marco rubio has a foreign policy we can call it poland spring. >> that was good. >> i
can you see rubio being presented a bottle o water? it would -- thank you so much for being a part of this. i am parched, and i'm particularly appreciative. thank you very much, brook, we appreciate it. this is the nonsense people are doing, and they don't talk about the rubio response. >> which was good, i thought. >> terrific. he's going to be a leader. that scares the hell out of those people, and everybody understands, understands what the message is from the left, and cnn...
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rubio, isn't it? i mean, in many ways, he's getting away with some of the most outrageous policy stuff by us talking about the swig. >> you're right, reverend. it was incredibly awkward. however, to be fair to rubio, his spanish rebuttal was a lot less awkward. in terms of what this means for the gop, they've not let this be a fa talt flop. that they're coming to his defense. it doesn't have the time or frankly ability to build a bridge to the community. >> now, to rerks y, let me ask you this bill o'reilly is out raged saying the media has covered this wrong. >> when there is a legitimate point that the left fears, they divert attention. that's what happened in this case. diverting attention from rubio's speech. this is so foolish. but does it show desz prags on the part of the left? to actually high light this. >> what does it show? >> they laughed about the left teasing rubio. so they are focused on us focusing on rubio drinking. so they're actually focusing much attention on it, as well. but there
rubio, isn't it? i mean, in many ways, he's getting away with some of the most outrageous policy stuff by us talking about the swig. >> you're right, reverend. it was incredibly awkward. however, to be fair to rubio, his spanish rebuttal was a lot less awkward. in terms of what this means for the gop, they've not let this be a fa talt flop. that they're coming to his defense. it doesn't have the time or frankly ability to build a bridge to the community. >> now, to rerks y, let me...
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look, i'm a long-time rubio skeptic. i'm sorry, but i've never drank the kool aid that he is the greatest thing ever. people overestimate his fabulousness because he has the image components the right needs. but substantively, that was marco rubio last night. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. >>> president obama, well, would have made ted kennedy very proud last night. next, i'll tell you why $9 an hour minimum wage is just the beginning. "the ed show" congressional committee tells us just how president obama's fix it first idea could be the republicans' worst nightmare. we're right back. >>> why this volume of amendments on just the issue to try and raise the minimum wage. what is it about it that drives you republicans crazy? what is it? >> six years after ted kennedy asked the question, not a whole lot has changed. republicans are still opposing efforts to raise the minimum wage. and last night president obama called on congress to take some action. >> tonight let's declare that in th
look, i'm a long-time rubio skeptic. i'm sorry, but i've never drank the kool aid that he is the greatest thing ever. people overestimate his fabulousness because he has the image components the right needs. but substantively, that was marco rubio last night. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. >>> president obama, well, would have made ted kennedy very proud last night. next, i'll tell you why $9 an hour minimum wage is just the...
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look, i'm a long-time rubio skeptic. i'm sorry, but i've never drank the kool aid that he is the greatest thing ever. people overestimate his fabulousness because he has the image components the right needs. but substantively, that was marco rubio last night. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. >>> president obama, well, would have made ted kennedy very proud last night. next, i'll tell you why $9 an hour minimum wage is just the beginning. "the ed show" congressional committee tells us just how president obama's fix it first idea could be the republicans' worst nightmare. we're right back. [ female announcer ] switch to swiffer 360 dusters extender, and you'll dump your old duster. but don't worry, he'll find someone else. ♪ who's that lady? ♪ who's that lady? ♪ sexy lady, who's that lady? [ female announcer ] swiffer 360 dusters extender cleans high and low, with thick all around fibers that attract and lock up to two times more dust than a feather duster. swiffer gives cleaning a
look, i'm a long-time rubio skeptic. i'm sorry, but i've never drank the kool aid that he is the greatest thing ever. people overestimate his fabulousness because he has the image components the right needs. but substantively, that was marco rubio last night. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. >>> president obama, well, would have made ted kennedy very proud last night. next, i'll tell you why $9 an hour minimum wage is just the...
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look, i'm a long-time rubio skeptic. i'm sorry, but i've never drank the kool aid that he is the greatest thing ever. people overestimate his fabulousness because he has the image components the right needs. but substantively, that was marco rubio last night. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. >>> president obama, well, would have made ted kennedy very proud last night. next, i'll tell you why $9 an hour minimum wage is just the beginning. "the ed show" congressional committee tells us just how president obama's fix it first idea could be the republicans' worst nightmare. we're right back. [ male announcer ] pearls. hairbands. and now hot pink toes. seems tough for a tough dog like duke. but when it has anything to do with gwen, he's putty in her hands. for a love this strong, duke's family only feeds him iams. compared to other leading brands, it has 50% more animal protein... ...to help keep his body as strong as a love that can endure anything... even every fashion trend. iams. keep lo
look, i'm a long-time rubio skeptic. i'm sorry, but i've never drank the kool aid that he is the greatest thing ever. people overestimate his fabulousness because he has the image components the right needs. but substantively, that was marco rubio last night. >> joy reid, great to have you on "the ed show." thank you so much. >>> president obama, well, would have made ted kennedy very proud last night. next, i'll tell you why $9 an hour minimum wage is just the...
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cbs calls it marco rubio's water-bottle gate moment. (laughter) politico's headline reads, marco rubio's drinking problem. the daily beast, rubio upstaged by water bottle and hollywood reporter media obsesses by the senator get it right, wet tv gaffe. a gaffe? he drank water! so not over it. and joining me he to discuss it the think tank advocacy organization, and marc thiessen a fellow at the american enterprise speech writer tore george w. bush. tell the truth, simon when you saw that as a democrat did you think, yes, he's out? anybody who could drink water in prime time, this is great! >> honest truth i was so shocked that i shouted and i woke up my dog who was sleeping right next to me. i was-- look. >> megyn: he drank water! >> i know. i think the reason, if i can push my, like he was doing then, the reason that people were surprised frankly expectations for marco rubio are high and i think he's regarded as a serious presidential candidate in 2016 and he's clearly a compelling performer and part of what, he didn't live up to his bi
cbs calls it marco rubio's water-bottle gate moment. (laughter) politico's headline reads, marco rubio's drinking problem. the daily beast, rubio upstaged by water bottle and hollywood reporter media obsesses by the senator get it right, wet tv gaffe. a gaffe? he drank water! so not over it. and joining me he to discuss it the think tank advocacy organization, and marc thiessen a fellow at the american enterprise speech writer tore george w. bush. tell the truth, simon when you saw that as a...
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and the good news for marco rubio is he makes rubio look like a statesman. and john mccain god bless him is rising to the occasion. and i haven't had many nice things to say about mccain in the last few years. it is separating out the attack dogs and the really vicious people from the people who are merely obstructionists. anyway, marco rubio missed a big moment last night. it's not about the drink of water. it comes down to the fact they do not understand that this new democratic electorate, latinos, women, african-americans, asians, young people. they like government. they really believe that government has a role in their lives. and they also know something that white voters have forgot. and that is that government created the middle class the first time around. only they mainly did it for white men, basically. and we can do it again for this next america. they get that. and marco rubio looks different, has a different name, says nice things about government, but it's the same old warmed over yafer or tea party nonsense. >> yeah! that's my point, joan. he
and the good news for marco rubio is he makes rubio look like a statesman. and john mccain god bless him is rising to the occasion. and i haven't had many nice things to say about mccain in the last few years. it is separating out the attack dogs and the really vicious people from the people who are merely obstructionists. anyway, marco rubio missed a big moment last night. it's not about the drink of water. it comes down to the fact they do not understand that this new democratic electorate,...
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you heard marco rubio. on the one hand, you have chris christie on one side talking about the realities of the aftermath of sandy, and then you have marco rubio in his state of the union response saying what he said, so i think that realistically there is not going to be much congressional action. i think what he said in his state of the union the other night is where he would like to go. the big test is going to be the keystone pipeline. i don't know the answer to how this is going to play out. i mean, i think -- i don't know that this is going to be his major priority over, say, immigration. >> i'm not saying major priority, but he does -- there are e.p.a. regulations committee put in place. the keystone, that's a state department question, but fundamentally it's something that he has some control over. >> he needs to decide the keystone is not in the national interest. it comes through the state department, but he has a path to take. he can go down the clean energy pathway or dirty energy pathway. keysto
you heard marco rubio. on the one hand, you have chris christie on one side talking about the realities of the aftermath of sandy, and then you have marco rubio in his state of the union response saying what he said, so i think that realistically there is not going to be much congressional action. i think what he said in his state of the union the other night is where he would like to go. the big test is going to be the keystone pipeline. i don't know the answer to how this is going to play...
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the late night comics take on marco rubio's water gulp. you will see that the rest of your life, he will. and this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ male announcer ] you are a business pro. executor of efficiency. you can spot an amateur from a mile away... while going shoeless and metal-free in seconds. and you...rent from national. because only national lets you choose any car in the aisle...and go. you can even take a full-size or above, and still pay the mid-size price. now this...will work. [ male announcer ] just like you, business pro. just like you. go national. go like a pro. just like you. and you see the woman you fell in love with. she's everything to you. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your m
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and since the press was laughing it up, senator rubio played along, tweeting out a fphoto ofa bottle and bringing along a prop. >> i needed water. what am i going to do. god has a funny way of reminding us we're human. >> the last time at the republican convention. after clint eastwood left the podium, he arrived, thirsty. but he isn't the only one drowning in water jokes. john boehner drowned his sorrows and compared robert pattinson's nervous tick to water sip. >> we've got to talk about "twilight." >> there are rumors -- >> when paul ryan debated joe biden for the vice presidentsy, his sips ended up as a skit on snl. >> i may not go every sunday, but on christmas eve -- >> two handed chug with one thing. comedians made fun of what they called marco rubio's cotton mouth dry noises. >> thank you for listening. may god bless all of you. >> we'll toast to that. jeanne moos, cnn. >> i want to say, folks -- >> new york. >> she's very funny. >> i got one. that's it for us. erin burnett "outfront" starts erin burnett "outfront" starts right now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com >>> w
and since the press was laughing it up, senator rubio played along, tweeting out a fphoto ofa bottle and bringing along a prop. >> i needed water. what am i going to do. god has a funny way of reminding us we're human. >> the last time at the republican convention. after clint eastwood left the podium, he arrived, thirsty. but he isn't the only one drowning in water jokes. john boehner drowned his sorrows and compared robert pattinson's nervous tick to water sip. >> we've got...
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take a look at the marco rubio water bottle. reclaim america is offering one if you donate -- 25 bucks or more on-line. president obama's two big nominees john brennan and chuck hagel facing resistance. a show down looming in the senate as democrats attempt to break a gop filibuster of the defense nominee chuck hagel. >> good morning ainsley, first things first that top job at the pentagon since we are one day closer to the devastating automatic cuts to the defense departments potentially being brought about by the sec quest tore on the first of march. even during such an uncertain time some republicans want to make sure the correct person is installed as defense secretary. they are ready to keep asking questions until they are satisfied enough to vote one way or another on chuck hagel. >> the debate on chuck payihage not over. it has not been serious. we don't have the information we need and i am going to fight the idea of jamming somebody through until we get answers about what the president did personally when it came to the
take a look at the marco rubio water bottle. reclaim america is offering one if you donate -- 25 bucks or more on-line. president obama's two big nominees john brennan and chuck hagel facing resistance. a show down looming in the senate as democrats attempt to break a gop filibuster of the defense nominee chuck hagel. >> good morning ainsley, first things first that top job at the pentagon since we are one day closer to the devastating automatic cuts to the defense departments potentially...
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. >> michael: we're not talking about mark row rubio marco rubio's water shed moment. apparently neither is he. we'll get to that right after the break. honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. [ piano plays ] troy polamalu's going deeper. ♪ ♪ and so is head & shoulders deep clean. [ male announcer ] with 7 benefits it goes deep to remove grease, gunk and flakes. deep. like me. [ male announcer ] head & shoulders deep clean for men. ♪ ♪ >> michael: let's check in with the "the young turks." cenk, what have you got tonight? >> cenk: we've got an awesome show for you tonight. so bill nye the science guy he's going to tell us about an astro that will take out the whole earth. >> michael: wow. >> cenk: we have it find out. >> michael: i'm obviously--it's thursday and i'm institute ing something new the best. chuck hagel, confirmed or not confirmed. >> cenk: i'm goi
. >> michael: we're not talking about mark row rubio marco rubio's water shed moment. apparently neither is he. we'll get to that right after the break. honest. they can question whether i'm right, but i think that the audience gets that this guy, to the best of his ability, is trying to look out for us. the chill of peppermint. the rich dark chocolate. york peppermint pattie get the sensation. [ piano plays ] troy polamalu's going deeper. ♪ ♪ and so is head & shoulders deep...
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rubio did not adjust his speech the take out the complaints. so senator rubio in his response last night ended up complaining about things said by president obama that president obama actually did not say in the speech that everybody had just finished watching right before marco rubio got to take his turn. mr. rubio's whole windup was about how president obama had just spent his state of the union address defending big government and demanding even bigger government. this president thinks the only solution to everything is bigger government. and that might be an effective response to a yay big government speech, but instead it seemed like a non sequitur, because this is the speech that senator rubio's comments actually came after. >> it is not a bigger government we need. >> senator rubio also complained with a sarcastic twist that the president needs to put out a medicare plan already. tonight would have been a good night to do that, huh, mr. president. the problem is the president had just put out a medicare plan, a plan he described in the a
rubio did not adjust his speech the take out the complaints. so senator rubio in his response last night ended up complaining about things said by president obama that president obama actually did not say in the speech that everybody had just finished watching right before marco rubio got to take his turn. mr. rubio's whole windup was about how president obama had just spent his state of the union address defending big government and demanding even bigger government. this president thinks the...
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>> poland springs missed a huge opportunity following that marco rubio thing. they should have been all over it. stay hydrated. >> stay hydrated, my friend. >> lee, what did you learn? >> i learned that women are not only doing wonderful things in the board room, but elsewhere, they are a lower credit risk for lenders. >> lower credit risk. >> i thought it was very interesting. >> mika, let me ask you, as you were jetting across the atlantic and watching on your big screen, how big on your goldstream, how big is the hdtv? 40 inches or so? >> this joke has been running for five years. i think it's time to debunk it. >> it never gets old. >> it doesn't get old to you? funny thing is, you're the elitist. that's what i've learned today. what'd you learn? >> zing! >> you're pretty good at calling out people. i learned that! i learned that, let's see, wayne lapierre is extreme on guns and paul krugman is extreme on debt. they sort of occupy their own alternative universeses and the question is whether the republicans are going to have the guts to stand up to lapierre
>> poland springs missed a huge opportunity following that marco rubio thing. they should have been all over it. stay hydrated. >> stay hydrated, my friend. >> lee, what did you learn? >> i learned that women are not only doing wonderful things in the board room, but elsewhere, they are a lower credit risk for lenders. >> lower credit risk. >> i thought it was very interesting. >> mika, let me ask you, as you were jetting across the atlantic and...
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this is a rigged game and it is the wrong game for us to play. >> as we look ahead to 2016, rubio and the jindals and christies of the world represent two different schools of thinking in terms of how to rebrand the party and how to fight obama. >>> well, it's valentine's day, but love is not in the air, for anyone here in washington. what's new about that? up next, more on the republican party, at odds with itself, messenger and messaging. plus, what do they think of the obama agenda. with all the love lost, is it time for a breakup? we talk to tennessee congressman, marsha blackburn, who says it's time to get rid of the grand old party. >>> but first, a look ahead, in today's politics planner, a lot of sequester hearings today. arne duncan on the hill, talking about that. secretary clinton getting an honor at the pentagon today. and of course, the president in atlanta, but he also does a google hangout. so get your head gear on. you're watching "the daily rundown," only on msnbc. and...done. did you just turn your ringer off so no one would interrupt us? oh no, i... just used my gei
this is a rigged game and it is the wrong game for us to play. >> as we look ahead to 2016, rubio and the jindals and christies of the world represent two different schools of thinking in terms of how to rebrand the party and how to fight obama. >>> well, it's valentine's day, but love is not in the air, for anyone here in washington. what's new about that? up next, more on the republican party, at odds with itself, messenger and messaging. plus, what do they think of the obama...
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while senator marco rubio's drink in the republican response in the "state of the union" was up doubtedly awkward, yesterday cnn ran a graphic reading "career ender" over the rubio story with wolf blitzer wondering allowed, "so, can a drink of water make or break a political career?" cnn clarified via twitter, "we are joking. it was a tease." new york democrat congressman charles rangel seemed serious when he said, "most people were embarrassed by his performance." the rnc issued this response -- "if i were senator rubio, i wouldn't too concerned about charles rangel's opinion considering he hasn't seen an ethics violation he didn't like." >>> zombies are getting attention in canada. last year the government in british columbia referenceed threat of zombie attack to encourage residents to put together emergency survival kit. then the heart and stroke association put together zombie class to promote cpr classes. yesterday, zombies came up on the floor of parliament. >> zombies don't recognize orders. the zombie invasion in the united states could easily turn in to a continent wide pandemic
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speech last week where the bottom line was we need to have a softer tone, you ended up seeing marco rubio saying it was more about cosmetics and new policies. the question is whether that's the one that's going to lead them to victory in the 2014 midterms. >> developing news up next, i just got this information in. another set back for the carnival cruise ship that's being towed back to the u.s. we're now learning that the tow line broke. we'll get the latest on this ship and the stranded passengers who are suffering on it. we'll be right back. hey! did you know that honey nut cheerios has oats that can help lower cholesterol? and it tastes good? sure does! wow. it's the honey, it makes it taste so... well, would you look at the time... what's the rush? be happy. be healthy. we all work remotely so this is a big deal, our first full team gathering! i wanted to call on a few people. ashley, ashley marshall... here. since we're often all on the move, ashley suggested we use fedex office to hold packages for us. great job. [ applause ] thank you. and on a protocol note, i'd like to talk to t
speech last week where the bottom line was we need to have a softer tone, you ended up seeing marco rubio saying it was more about cosmetics and new policies. the question is whether that's the one that's going to lead them to victory in the 2014 midterms. >> developing news up next, i just got this information in. another set back for the carnival cruise ship that's being towed back to the u.s. we're now learning that the tow line broke. we'll get the latest on this ship and the stranded...
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rubio has views on immigration that are controversial even within the republican party. i'm not saying personally, it might be worth debating those, right? he's said things that not everyone agrees w. and so i with. it seems totally within the bound, perhaps the duty of the news media to hold up those views, to analyze them, discuss them, explain what they mean and instead they are focused on something that is completely irrelevant and dumb. they devalue their own currency by doing this. martha: you look back at some of these post state of the union addresses, and bobby jindal had one that was less than stellar. has that had a last be affect on him and on his career do you think? >> it did. i don't think there is any question about it. whether or not it's fair is a separate question but there is no doubt about the fact that the performance that jindal gave, quite apart from what he said, just his physical appearance, walking at the beginning of the response, et cetera, was so harshly panned was so profoundly criticized that i think it hurt his ability to fund raise for a
rubio has views on immigration that are controversial even within the republican party. i'm not saying personally, it might be worth debating those, right? he's said things that not everyone agrees w. and so i with. it seems totally within the bound, perhaps the duty of the news media to hold up those views, to analyze them, discuss them, explain what they mean and instead they are focused on something that is completely irrelevant and dumb. they devalue their own currency by doing this....
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naturally, since the president proposed it, boehner, rubio, and paul ryan have all dismissed raising the minimum wage out of hand
naturally, since the president proposed it, boehner, rubio, and paul ryan have all dismissed raising the minimum wage out of hand
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naturally, since the president proposed it, boehner, rubio, and paul ryan have all dismissed raising the minimum wage out of hand. >> when you raise the price of employment, guess what happens? you get less of it. at a time when the american people are still asking the question where are the jobs why would we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people? >> at first blush boehner's argument sounds reasonable but it doesn't hold up so well under closer inspection. the real world data show that is gain this is productivity and increased consumer spending offset the increased wage cost and result ultimately in no job losses. there's some common sense we can apply here, too. corporate profits are at an all-time high as a percent of gdp while wages are at an all time low. seems to me some of those profits could be used to pay workers a bit more. let's be honest here though, the real reason republicans oppose the minimum wage isn't their conservative ideology. after all, what's conservative about subsidizing the profits of private corporations through welfare, food stamps and
naturally, since the president proposed it, boehner, rubio, and paul ryan have all dismissed raising the minimum wage out of hand. >> when you raise the price of employment, guess what happens? you get less of it. at a time when the american people are still asking the question where are the jobs why would we want to make it harder for small employers to hire people? >> at first blush boehner's argument sounds reasonable but it doesn't hold up so well under closer inspection. the...
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there are two areas he departed from rubio. one on defense spending where rand paul has been completely at odds with the republican party in saying the sequester that's looming should go through -- and if anything, we should cut the pentagon more and he was a little bit more liberal. that's really -- i think what -- >> bill: a libertarian position. >> right. i think he's trying to pick up this. he is the younger you know, in some ways, more appealing to the mainstream candidate than his father. i think he's trying to run in 2016 and raise his profile. this was an opportunity for him to do that. >> bill: right. not surprising there is very little difference between marco rubio and rand paul. white house pointed out marco rubio's speech could have been given by mitt romney. there was nothing new in it in terms of -- if he's the future of the republican party, it is going to look just like the past. >> it could have been given by any republican for the past 30 years. and there was nothing new. the part i was most surprised about,
there are two areas he departed from rubio. one on defense spending where rand paul has been completely at odds with the republican party in saying the sequester that's looming should go through -- and if anything, we should cut the pentagon more and he was a little bit more liberal. that's really -- i think what -- >> bill: a libertarian position. >> right. i think he's trying to pick up this. he is the younger you know, in some ways, more appealing to the mainstream candidate than...
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i'm a big fan of marco rubio, for example. i think he's worked it aggressively. >> rose: a pathway to citizenship. >> i think that's basically where we're headed. you've got to have some kind of ultimate resolution and i'm not an expert in the subject but i think clearly we've got over 11 million illegals here and i think the ideas that we need to find ways to come to grips that with problem and pass legislation are sod so i'm more inclined to look at somebody like rubio and the work he's done as being something that we need to -- >> rose: it's something your administration wanted very much. the president cited it as one of his second-term goals. >> the president was very big on it. he had 44% of the latino vote in texas. >> rose: so what's happened to your party? >> i think the issue was probably badly handled during the last election. i think that contributed to it. >> rose: because of the competitiveness of the primary? >> partly. i think in part because one of the explanations -- i can' speak with authority to whether or n
i'm a big fan of marco rubio, for example. i think he's worked it aggressively. >> rose: a pathway to citizenship. >> i think that's basically where we're headed. you've got to have some kind of ultimate resolution and i'm not an expert in the subject but i think clearly we've got over 11 million illegals here and i think the ideas that we need to find ways to come to grips that with problem and pass legislation are sod so i'm more inclined to look at somebody like rubio and the...